[Bjorn]

Sorry to be writing in English, but I feel my Deutsch is kinda... not good enough.

Anyway, a couple of years back I (thought I) did the problem "Ristiti" at the Maximilansgrotte. The thing is graded 7C by both I and all my friends found it a lot easier. Since, the picture in the guide is, well, you can't be sure you're climbing the right problem, if you know what I mean... Where does this problem start? Is it an eliminate?

Same question for "Mann beisst Hund".

P.S. You don't have to answer in English. D.S.

[fabi]

The two boulders are both sitdown starts. Ristitit starts in front of an uncomfortable stone. You start with two good sideholds and it ends to the right on the final hold of Mann beisst Hund. This boulder starts 1.5 meters next to ristitit (right side). You use the starthold of ri.. as a hook for the first move.

[wt_]

pictures ? where ?

I dont think this boulders are eliminated.

the 7c starts on 2 good holds, 1.move r.h up. 2.move also hard. a lot of people say its easy but i cant agree , so 7b-7c.

on m.b.h 4 me there is no way to get out of this bloc. 8a is ok.

[webmaster]

the picture, in the thum-guide is wrong.

this boulder is about 6c.